Why does it seem like MGTOW is more of a tribe that many are trying the be the leader of, instead of the simple phenomenon of men going their own way?
Since the time I first heard of MGTOW, I have seen dozens of proclaimed “leaders” come and go, trying to define it for everyone else and tag on riders that mirror their agenda/ideology. As much as I appreciate themes like free economics and personal ownership per say, I don’t really see that they are integral components of MGTOW. What’s wrong with MGTOW being exactly what the acronym stands for, nothing more and nothing less? Maybe it’s because the phrase men going their own way is too vague by itself; what it needs is proper elaboration, not constant evolution or modification by a loose group of online self-proclaimed experts.
The tribalism seemed the worst in the MGTOW Forums, and thank goodness those days are gone…well, as far as I know, or care (please take note). Still, there is a cetain amount of tribalism around bloggers, youtubers, etc. and their loyal hangers-on. By the time you have online social media wars driven by pack mentality against “intruders” who bring contrary ideas. It’s also pathetic when you have certain MGTOW pundits like Sandman whom guys actually pay to sound off on the issues, as if they were fortune tellers or prophets.
For one thing, tribalism is antithetical to MGTOW in the first place, is it not? For another thing, if these guys have really gone their own way, how much left is there to talk about?
I’m not pitching the line from the blue pill folk, saying that once you go your own way, you need to be silenced and made to go away. I think that the most valuable information in the mgtowsphere are the basic facts and stories about what happens to guys who stay in the matrix. That said, the last thing MGTOW needs is a sense of community. It’s called going your own way, not going into a huddle.
So how would I elaborate? How would I
define describe MGTOW? I would simply put it this way: to go one’s own way is to avoid entanglements, as much as possible, with females. Does it really need to be more complicated than that?
I think that if everyone accepted that simple principle, we’d at least have more people knowing where they stand on the issue. Right now, most people on the inside and outside probably think that it’s synonymous with MRA. Well, when you have guys who carry the MGTOW sign while preaching men’s rights activism really loudly and still getting entangled with women, how can people not be confused? Oh, that’s right…there are “different levels of MGTOW”, which is strange because everyone seems to want to stay a green belt, right? Guys want to divorce themselves from womankind, but they still want to get laid somehow — being a monk or a recluse isn’t cool.
No no, I’m not getting back on cocaine…I’m just going to nibble at it.
Turd Flinging Monkey has some of the best commentary on the subject, and I respect the fact that he is being real about the sexual side of things, going all-out on love dolls. On the other hand, I was a little bit disappointed at his video, “Talking Shit with Jaydie” (what I saw of it anyway, because I could only bear so much of it)…I mean, why someone like him would give time and attention to, and throw pearls of wisdom under a little twat like that is hard to explain, other than chalking it up to that good ol’ hardwired leash of influence that few men acknowledge, and many others think they can somehow beat — kind of like those people who think that they can drive drunk. Now I’m not saying that Jaydie is going to worm her way into TFM’s brain or anything, but I do know that that’s how it starts. Just because the average woman may not know how to change a car battery doesn’t mean that they aren’t very clever social tacticians and manipulators — never underestimate the amount of leverage they have on you as a man.
Avoiding all path-crossings with them is kind of hard, if you don’t live in a deserted island; but there is a difference between doing what you have to do in order to navigate around them through life, and becoming entangled. Where is the line? I would take it to the point of refusing to give them your contact information or befriend them on social media, unless it’s for strictly professional reasons (in which case you can put up the professional barrier and compartmentalize that engagement off from everything else). I also think it’s wise to steer clear of any non-essential conversations with them, thus preventing them from finding a way to get into your head. It’s understandable to make an exception for females in the family, but in some cases, even they may use female manipulation tactics on you, and it may be necessary to limit those relationships as well.
Once you realize what MGTOW really entails, you may decide that it’s not quite for you, but unlike the futile exercise of trying to appeal to women, at least you’ll be clear about what the terms are. No, you don’t have to be part of some online club and cheer on MRA rants — and as a matter of fact, you don’t even need to identify with the MGTOW acronym, because it’s a phenomenon that needs no name. It’s a simple matter of having a true understanding of the hazard known as modern females, and staying away from that hazard. It’s not a misogyny thing either — to quote a line from The Gods Must Be Crazy…
Even a poisonous snake is not bad. You just have to keep away from the sharp end.
Just always remember: women, like men, are people…and that’s where the similarities end. Do not become entangled. Even the most innocuous and innocent-seeming entaglements can turn into big entanglements..and before you know it, you are in a bind that you wish you were out of. It’s like one of the pilots’ favorite sayings: it’s better to be on the ground, wishing you were in the air, than being in the air and wishing you were on the ground.