Month: May 2014

#YesAllWomen (Laughed at the Guy Whose Penis Went Into the Garbage Disposal)

In response to the Elliot Rodger spree killing (that killed more men than women), young feminists everywhere have launched a Twitter campaign to teach that dead, rotting corpse a lesson!  Either that, the campaign is directed at living men who haven’t gone on a spree killing, in response to a spree killing that they didn’t commit.  Actually, it’s a response to a feminist-generated #NotAllMen meme that was floating around before the killing took place, and now exploits the social momentum that the Isla Vista killing has created, as if men defending themselves from feminist libels and a mass murder were connected somehow.

Interestingly, there is another meme that has been floating around also: NAWALT, or “not all women are like that”.  Looks like two can play that game, and have been.  The big difference is that when the psychotic Catherine Kieu Becker of Garden Grove, California drugged her husband, tied him up, severed his penis and threw it in the garbage disposal in 2011, no one tried to make a straw man out of that incident against NAWALT.  The fact that NAWALT — which is usually a defense against men pointing out how women seem to prefer exactly the kind of immature yet swaggering “bad boys” whom they claim that they are not attracted to — had absolutely nothing to do with Lorena Bobbit 2.0 went without saying.  In fact, men’s rights activists (MRAs) already had enough ammo against the bad behavior of typical women out of that incident, after women on CBS’s The Talk laughed and mocked the victim in that case — yes, cheers from the audience and everything — and Sharon Osbourne declared it to be “quite fabulous”.  There was no need to try to dovetail that incident into the counter-NAWALT movement, the way feminists have been trying to tie the Elliot Rodger rampage to all sorts of real or imagined grievances against women, like the speciously-argued wage/gender-gap.

Indeed, all women (or perhaps as many as those who laughed at the mutilation victim of Garden Grove) have felt creeped-out by something an unsexy guy was doing — simply existing, perhaps — and honestly, that’s all that the #YesAllWomen campaign appears to be about, in addition to garden-variety feminist propaganda.  One of the most popular feminist tweets reads: practice violence against women but live with the threat of male violence. Every. Single. Day. All over the world.”  Do feminists realize that this actually says nothing?  Everyone lives under the threat of violence, every single day, all over the world, perpetrated by males, females, animals, robots, thunder storms, meteorites…  How many females actually become victims of violence, compared to the number of men who are victimized, using the same standards for what constitutes violence?  Again, I remind you that in the killing spree that spurned this campaign, more men were killed than women.

Does women’s paranoia make them feel sexy?  I mean, if you want to talk about narcissism regarding the Isla Vista incident, what can we say about all of the millions of women walking around and vainly assuming that they might be vengefully snuffed out by a lonely man who went crazy without their divine charms, or raped at any moment by any man within 100 yards?  I guess that this must be one of the added benefits for a woman going through a university gender studies class and becoming a victim in her own mind, satisfying one of the most basic emotional needs that #YesAllWomen have: to be desired.  I don’t think it’s all that far-fetched to say that the Isla Vista killings have been a massive ego-trip for women everywhere.  Even they can’t argue that it has renewed their sense of victimhood, which is helpful when that is the primary instrument of getting things done for yourself, but it takes a seriously overinflated sense of self-worth to think that things are really as bad as feminists make them out to be.

Unattractive Loser Bitterness, and Causality

Some years ago, had a featured post by Loveablenerd titled “A Lesson In Causality for the Chronologically Impared”.

This is specifically addressed to all the n00bs, and the persistent white knight/mangina’s out there who are convinced that no one on this board is a “nice guy” because of all the bitterness displayed on this web site. Since we obviously show signs of disliking women, that is clearly the reason we can’t get any.

Here is how causality works… a love-shy or incel boy enters puberty and suddenly is interested in girls. And he isn’t alone, suddenly all his peers are as well. However, he quickly learns there is something wrong as most of his friends go on to have normal dating experiences, and sex and relationships at all the appropriate times in their youth while this boy is unable to. If he is LS it is because he is unable to approach them. Otherwise, he may do everything he sees his more successful peers do yet gets constantly, inexplicably rejected.

Now this boy was the nicest guy you would ever meet. He helped old ladies cross the street. If he found a lost wallet in the mall rather than keep it or the money inside it he would turn it in to the lost and found. He never found a hungry stray animal that he didn’t take in, much to the annoyance of his parents. And he was just as nice to the girls. Not because he wanted to get in their pants. He just wanted a normal relationship. Dating. Companionship. What all of his peers had.

But it never happened. Instead, he saw the boys who were the most obnoxious, the biggest bullies in the school, were the most successful with the girls. These girls would complain about how these guys treated them, and how much they wanted a nice guy. But he was completely invisible to them. When they finally broke up with the a-holes, they would move right along to another a-hole. Rinse and repeat. Throughout junior high. Throughout high school. Then the boy graduates and moves off to college, thinking at last he would get his due. But no, it was more of the same. Even worse than high school. All the more disturbing because these were intelligent educated girls that should have known better. He can become friends with them, and friend-zoned… but never get any further. And then he gets to listen to them bitch about the guy they are banging every weekend while he is stuck playing Halo in his dorm room.

So another four to six years of his life goes by. And then out into the “real world” where a man can’t even ask out a girl where he works for fear of being fired for sexual harassment. Most of the women around are taken. And more and more of his old friends are getting married and settled down, while he is still at square zero.

Needless to say, by now it is becoming harder and harder to fight the inevitable frustration from this scenario. By watching it play out again and again hundreds of times, he does have a lot of empirical sociological evidence to weigh. And while it is all subjective, it runs over a course of a decade or more. And by weighing this all out and drawing obvious conclusions…. if this guy doesn’t harbor negative feelings toward women by now, he is either Mahatma Ghandi or he is completely deluded by pop positivity into thinking his big break is right around the corner…. it isn’t.

This is where the typical mangina/white knight pipes up… Ahah! You have a negative attitude toward women! NO WONDER you don’t have any success! All the while failing to grasp the fact that this negativity has built up over years and decades of being left out in the cold. It is virtually impossible NOT to have negative feelings about it by now. But they did not cause the exclusion from DSR that the boy has endured his whole life. He didn’t start out that way. The actual causes are debated continuously so I won’t get into them here… but negativity is the result, not the cause of loveshyness and incel.

Learn the direction of causality. Otherwise you sound like a two year old kid covering their eyes and saying “Haha! You can’t see me!”

This is even more pertinent today, in the aftermath of the Elliot Rodger shooting/stabbing spree.

There are a lot of people from all corners of both the news media and social media who are spending a lot of time decrying what Rodger did, but are they really out to lecture a dead man into submission?  No, he is among the dead now, so the war being waged in the wake of his “day of retribution” is between members of the living — those with active genitals, and those with inactive genitals.  The sexually-active vs. the virgins.  The word “kissless virgin” is being thrown all around now in the news and elsewhere, to describe a heretofore unrealized demographic of, apparently, potential murderers.

You can read comments everywhere from people all over, most of which say nothing new.  The same old platitude comes up, over and over again: “No wonder women don’t like you guys!”  It started as a slogan about there being no wonder why women didn’t like him — him being Elliot Rodger — but now the attention is taking the expected turn to those who are like him.  No, I don’t mean in the murderous sense, but in the sexual sense, which is just as revolting to most people.

It’s probably as much a Don Quixotesque thing for me to spend two minutes writing about this subject as it is for its intended audience to repeat the above platitude in every comments section of ever news article on the subject, but alas, here we go anyway.

People, listen: when you see a guy who is the ubiquitous non-murdering and harmless version of Elliot Rodger, albeit bitter and disillusioned with the opposite sex’s apparent preference for the kind of guy whom he was bluffed into believing that they didn’t like, don’t lie to yourself and say that his attitude is what causes him to be incel.  Almost every single guy who is incel like that entered the life stage of sexual possibility with optimism, and likely maintained his sense of being a gentleman well past the point at which he became completely stalled in sociosexual progress.  Few things are more frustrating than watching everyone else develop into what you have been told are “full-fledged human beings”, entering relationships, marrying and starting families, while you haven’t progressed beyond the level of a 12-year-old in terms of sociosexual milestones…and then being given unsolicited, nebulous advice about confidence, and getting “out there”, and even things like hobbies and common interests…  Seriously, the kind of advice people try to give incels reeks of a lot of people simply enjoying listening to themselves talk.  One might as well be reading out of a boilerplate pamphlet from a seminar on how to make pamphlets.

An incel of a conspicuous age has already heard all of the pop-positivity he can stand, and he knows that none of it works.  He also doesn’t need to get an earful about the virtues of being in a relationship or marriage; after all, it’s not like he has never contemplated all of those things himself, long before you felt the need to remind him of it all.  When people go trying to lecture a hardcore incel into success — again, usually unsolicited —  they might as well be trying to sell private jets to hobos.  That constant reminder of no one really understanding his problems, combined with the inevitable feeling of being left out in one of life’s most important games, is indeed enough to ruin the niceness in even the nicest guys.

Also, if you think that “hawt guys”, who have been enjoying the prime cuts of success with girls since age 14, wouldn’t also act shitty about it if they had been put through the unbroken losing streak that incels have, then you are deluding yourself.  Most “normal” people, if suddenly dropped into a life of incel — with all of the hoplessness and social stigma that goes with it — would be about ready to jump off a bridge after a few months of it.  To think that guys who are successful would be nice about it if they were so unsuccessful with the opposite sex is adorning them with credit they haven’t earned and don’t deserve…but then, those kind of guys are used to getting things they don’t deserve.

Another thing worth mentioning — as much as you can tell that I truly hate to disappoint feminists — is that, no, the bitter incel wasn’t previously playing “nice” as a facade; likewise, the Nice Guy™ who still is nice for the time being, really is a nice guy.  The idea that “niceness” is just a mask, and that swaggering immaturity among the sexy guys is honesty, is just a really pathetic attempt on the part of sexually successful people to rationalize the outcomes of modern human sexuality, which in truth is being driven by the most primitive of forces.  It’s a way for women to make themselves feel like their choices in men weren’t as primitively-motivated as they really were, as well as a way to make men feel like they earned their way into having women chose them, bysimply being awesome.

Again, Elliot Rodger is dead and gone.  You are now dealing with living guys who haven’t harmed anyone, and never will.  If you want to redirect all of your anger from Rodger over to them, then I guess that’s what you’ll do.  Just don’t try to give them any advice about how not to be incel, because no matter how qualified you think your sexual routine makes you to counsel them, you can’t even imagine how hopeless their situation actually is.  Most of all, don’t give them a carrot-on-the-stick lecture about how women will supposedly be more attracted to them, if only they would stop being so bitter and sweeten up about it all.  They’re going to be just as incel, either way.  They already tried that, and it failed, remember?

Now just let them go live in peace.

Sorry, but we don’t apologize for Elliot Rodger

Why?  Because we don’t own his actions.  We are not responsible, in any way, for what he did.

Last week’s Santa Barbara Slaughterfest, courtesy of Elliot Rodger, has (unfortunately) thrust the subject of involuntary celibacy into the national spotlight, and — as is always the case with incel — in the worst sort of way.  Par for the course, as incel itself is characterized by starting out on the wrong foot, in everything.  Now the public’s curiosity has been piqued, and many will be searching for answers as to what incel is, and how it they can be stopped.

Feminists will be demanding that incels apologize and take responsibility for this, and some of the weaker ones probably will do that, but wrongfully so.  Apologizing for the actions of Elliot Rodger will set a precedent — good as an admittance of guilt — which is why, if ever a pact should be formed among incels, it should be formed on this.

There are already several incels who are expressing that they can relate to Elliot Rodger in many ways, most stopping short of singing his praises (I hope).  Naturally, most incels will be able to relate to him to a degree, but that’s the operative — to a degree.  The vast majority of incels lose him completely, once you cross into the territory of retribution and violence.  Even among those who toy with those ideas, 99.999% of them will never, ever do anything.  So, given that incels are generally harmless, especially compared to the sexy bad boys whom women aren’t afraid of (but probably should be), what is the harm?  Sure, you may be indignant about their opinions, their theories, how they came to their conclusions and of course, their intrinsic un-sexiness, but if you think that guys who never get laid are some kind of threat to the safety of anyone else, then not only are you kidding yourselves, but you are shamelessly taking the opportunity to reaffirm your own sense of superiority and smugness over them…and why?  Simply because your genitals connect regularly to someone else’s, and you don’t think you have to pay for it?

Anyone who sees this as anything other than what it is — a completely pscyhopathic, maladjusted, broken young man with scrambled eggs between his ears and likely a double-shot of SSRIs in him — ought to be ashamed of their irresponsible paranoia.  There are some crazy incels, but we’ve seen many of them make transitions from virginity to non-virginity, from incel to noncel, and they don’t change; the sane ones stay sane, the crazies stay crazy.  Incel is not where a threat like this comes from.  Given Elliot’s level of insanity, there’s a good chance that incel is one of the many manifestations of it, but rest assured (and maybe with satisfaction) that he would have gunned down another incel without a second thought.


Also, for you feminists: remember that most of the people that he killed were men…check-mate.

Couples Are Exalted



Awww, aren’t they a cute couple?

Not only would most say that they are “cute”, but when juxtaposed with a guy who is habitually single — even one who is 10-20 years their senior — probably 99% of the population would assume that those in real couples, reminiscent of this cartoon couple…

  • Are wiser, regardless of actual experience
  • Are more responsible, regardless of their history
  • Are more mature in every way, hands-down
  • Are of much better character and soundness of mind
  • Deserve better pay, lower taxes and an elevated status in society
  • Are entitled to a higher level of respect and a wider berth
  • Posses a kind of dignity that the habitual single man always lacks
  • Are worth more as human beings, and always have been, from day one

Is Any Man “Entitled” To A Woman?

The obvious answer is no, right? Most everyone agrees, and — like it or not — that includes the ever-loathed Nice Guys™.  You know, the guys who finish last because they just aren’t sexy enough, somehow. So why does this meme about how none of these guys are “entitled” to a woman keep coming up? Well, it’s the standard retort for every time he dares to complain about the situation he finds himself in. He would have nothing to complain about, were it all as simple as everyone else makes it out to be…

Life on his own, per say, is not that tough for the perpetually single guy. Early into permanent singleness, most of them know how to take care of themselves and all of their affairs fairly well. We’ve been force-fed the idea that a woman can do the same job just as well as a man, and whether or not that’s true, it can definitely be said that a man can do the same jobs — the “traditional” domestic tasks — as well as a woman, and in addition to doing a man’s 8-hour job (to the man’s satisfaction anyway). Other tasks that he might not be able to do as well, such as highly involved tasks of child rearing, will never be applicable anyway. He will find many ways to occupy his time, and will likely develop pursuits that are meaningful by any measure. Nor is he relegated to bad health, just because the stats say so, as a little bit of willpower can go a long ways towards maintaining a decent diet and avoiding unhealthy excesses. Most likely, he has family and friends to turn to when needed, and has everything he needs to live a fulfilled life. Oh, if only it were that simple…

The biggest problems he faces in life don’t come from a lack of a woman, but from other people who are not single like he is, and have a problem with how he lives. Sex and intimate relationships, becoming the most important thing in human existence — and glorification thereof that has been embraced by social liberals and conservatives alike — becomes a serious problem for those who aren’t able to engage in it, for whatever reason.  His singleness becomes ever more conspicuous in a world where people are becoming more and more in tune to other people’s sex lives, or lack thereof.  How wonderful it would be, if we could all live and let live, but no, that’s not the world we live in.

No man is entitled to a woman, nor is any woman entitled to a man.  What both of them are entitled to is peace from scrutiny.  They are entitled to live without harassing questions, pressure from selfish parents (and especially aunts), and unfair judgements about their sexuality and their character.  Alas, this is too much to ask in modern western society, it seems.

Single men are routinely accused of having entitlement issues, simply by complaining about anything.  If they complain about women only being interested in swaggering “alpha males”, they will be rebuked with, “You’re not entitled to sex!”  If they complain about a lack of opportunity, they will be rebuked with, “You’re not entitled to sex!”  If they talk with chagrin about having been friendzoned, after a long period of being strung along, they will be slapped with, “You’re not entitled to sex!”  If they happen to simply mention that they are single and lonely, they will hear, “You’re not entitled to sex!”  It’s a cliché.  It is a knee-jerk platitude that is thrown out, without any real consideration given as to how much it actually applies to the guy whom it is being thrown at.

Yet these same people throwing that platitude out at single guys, when finding themselves in an unsatisfying relationship situation, will whine, “I have neeeeeeeeeeds!”  So, consider the source.

Truth be told, men would rarely complain about anything, were they not being harassed for being single.  If complaining is a function of entitlement, then entitlement is a function of obligation.  Harassment for being single implies obligation not to be single.  If a man is not entitled to be free from being criticized, looked down upon, needled or otherwise harassed in any way for being solo, then he is entitled to a woman; if he is not entitled to a woman, then he is entitled not to be criticized, looked down upon, needled or otherwise harassed in any way for being solo.  You cannot tell a man that he is wrong for not having a woman, but not entitled to have one either.  One cannot be in debt if they cannot have debt owed to them as well.  When it comes to sexuality, no one owes anyone anything.  Women don’t owe any aspect of their sexuality to anyone (men), and likewise, men don’t owe any aspect of their sexuality to anyone (parents, aunts, nosy neighbors).

While it is expected of men to “man-up” and take initiative with women, they are only as responsible for doing so as they are responsible for having women in the first place.  They may not be able to complain about not having a woman if they never take initiative — the old rules of interaction are seemingly much more unchangeable than gender roles are, much to the delight of feminists — but as long as they don’t complain, then their mommy and daddy don’t have much of a prerogative to complain to their son about their grand-baby hunger pangs.

Any questions?

“The Loser”

This was originally posted by Heinous-Uranus on  The old link is dead, but it’s a classic that is worthy of living on.

Edit: okay, looks like it is still there after all:



Does this feel familiar – are you a loser?


Losers age:

10 y/o:

The losers stands on the same line with everyone else.

11-12 y/o:

The loser leans towards a wall in the disco and watches as the most popular guys in the school dance with the girls and exchange their first kisses. He dares not ask any girl to dance, even though he is already interested in them, and even if he did ask, noone would come with him anyway.

13-14 y/o:

The loser realizes the pleasure of masturbation – something that will be his only touch to the world of sex for a veeeeeery long time, though he doesn’t know that yet, as he is still young and most of his peers lack real sexual experience as well.

15-16 y/o:

The loser has still not made any contact with girls, and listens – suffering from feelings of confusion, embarrasment and budding inferiority – as his peers talk about their first sexual experiences with their first loves of some random girls from parties. The loser will hear what sex feels like, but cannot imagine himself in the position of his peers, whose sexual progress has been normal. Even at this age the loser is blissfully ignorant of the coming long years of solitude and psychological problems. He may still think that there’s time, and that everybody gets a girlfriend at some point.

18-19 y/o:

The loser has reached adulthood and many of his peers are already in steady relationships and have a lot of sexual experiences. Even those still single have many experiences in sexual intercourse. The loser may have succesfully made contact with women at this point, and with luck even reached the status of friendboy, but he still hasn’t had his first kiss, not to mention sexual intercourse.

20-22 y/o:

Now the loser has reached the conclusion that he is sexually retarded. He stands in the same group as a 11-year-old, and this starts to seriously embarass and piss him. For his peers, sex has become an obvious part of life, like running water. Sexual intercourse is no longer viewed as something special. The loser still lacks his first kiss and sexual intercourse feels as unprobable as winning the lottery. At this age he is able to fluently speak to women in work related situations.

23-25 y/o:

The loser starts getting more and more depressed and pissed – people ten years younger than him are enjoying a sexual life and relationships. Now he finally fully realizes that he is an abnormal freak, and that those sharing the same fate are few and far between. Other people start viewing him as strange and freak as well.

25-30 y/o:

Having contact with women starts to feel harder and harder as the years pass on, due to the inexperience and the feeling of depression, inferiority and insecurity it causes. Now the loser starts having serious mental problems. His peers are already married and have children, and the loser is light years behind in sexual maturation. The loser is too embarassed to go spend a boy’s night with his friends as he knows what will be the topics there. The loser is in the middle of a negative wheel where inexperience leads to more inexperience and loneliness. The days pass by as the loser thinks what went wrong and why he became what he became.