So what do you call a someone who disavows religion generally, but continues to defend Mormon insanity to the bitter end, calls Jews “Gentiles”, blocks people who dare to relate the nonsense of Mormonism to his own criticisms of religion, and uses a picture of Orrin Porter Rockwell over an illustration of a Mormon Temple, as his avatar?
Well, you’d call that someone very confused, and/or very Mormon. You might also call that person “Boxer”.
He’s far from being the first person whom I’ve know who has one foot in atheistic iconoclasm and the other in LDS temple.. I come from what used to be a Mormon family (and is no longer, thank God) and I’m fortunate that I became an apostate before I was old enough to have the ghost of Joseph Smith sink his claws into my mind. Nonetheless, my own background familiarized me all too well with Mormon theology, culture and the level of cognitive dissonance needed in order to entertain such absurdity. I’ve seen many people I know wrestle with the two opposing forces – the obviousness of the Mormon fraud pulling them in one direction, and the relentless tugging anchor of heavy LDS brainwashing – some of it approaching the level of Scientology in its cruelty and sophistication – pulling them in the other. Like I say, I’m glad I had an easy transition away from Mormonism as a child…but Boxer, on the other hand, is someone who didn’t get out in time, and is now suffering from cognitive dissonance, which leads to other badness.
Total hypocrisy is hard to let slip by without saying something. There is a recent thread of his titled My Problems of (with) Theodicy, which he set up for the sole purpose of criticizing the beliefs of some guy going by username “Honeycomb” – and before you point this out, in light of my opening to this paragraph, starting a post for that reason is not what I’m criticizing per say, since that’s what I’m doing here; I’m doing this thread because he has me blocked me/put me in moderation, so this is the only way I can respond. It’s worth it though, because what I’m criticizing is the fact that he’ll go to such lengths to try and take apart someone else’s point of view, but if anyone dares challenge the “folk religion” that is still obviously with him, that’s unacceptable and he shuts it down. You can’t respect someone like that.
After a recent dust-up we had in his thread about Jeff Flake and whether or not it’s appropriate to refer to Jews as Gentiles (yes, Mormons do that), I added my 2¢ on this thread, which didn’t even get a response from him…something about negative evidence and Russell’s teapot. No, that wasn’t worthy of a reply, but this was easily enough to get his temple garments in a bunch…
Faggot, huh? Does he think I’m homosexual? Hehe, no, it’s that you know that you’ve gotten under someone’s skin when, instead of meeting you with a measured argument, they lash out at you. Anyone is free to go to Boxer’s page and see all the context for yourself. If you read his diatribes on the Jeff Flake thread, it makes that all too clear (and if he takes it down, don’t worry – I saved it for posterity). Easy to see that he’s very, very touchy about his “folk religion”. Again, this is called cognitive dissonance. Whatever – a lot of people suffer from that. I just think it’s worth calling someone out when they challenge the sacred beliefs of others but refuse to put their own sacred oxen to the test. Again, that avatar is a picture of Porter Rockwell, who is a part of Mormon history that many Mormons wish everyone would forget about, given that he was a hit-man for Brigham Young; as such, you’d think that someone using a picture of “The Destroying Angel of Mormondom” wouldn’t be so easily destroyed himself.
Well Boxer, what can I say…? If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen. And maybe, just once, quit looking at life through the urim and thummim and letting dead, horny, alpha con men continue to torture your poor little brain.
So for you, I dedicate a song, written and performed by one of your own…
Oh, and I also dedicate you this photo of your “prophet” – what’s left of him anyway, after that Carthage, Illinois mob took care of him.
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